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vintage pioneer rig advice

Recently inherited some classical records and bought a nice pair of pioneer cs a700 speakers because they were gorgeous. I'm not an audiophile but fondly remember the stereo systems my brother's had in the 70s. I'd like to add on to these speakers with correct pioneer components of the period. I only anticipate needing a turntable (for the records) and maybe at some point a reel to reel (again mostly because I like the look) not sure what other components are needed (receiver?). I like the idea of all pioneer, but am open to an alternate that may work with the speakers. Finally, I love a minimal look like some german or Scandinavian stuff from the 70 very clean and minimal, but I don't want to spend a fortune either. Not sure if something along these lines would work with the all wood cs a700.



Re: vintage pioneer rig advice

I own a pair of mint CS-A700's. They were made between 1970-1975. Most of the older Pioneer receivers and amps have a wood outer case. Too many models to list for you. And, yes some of them do cost a small fortune, unlike 15-20 years ago.
Turntables are the PL prefix for Pioneer. The lower model numbered PL's are from that period. A good unit is the PL-41.

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Almost forgot to mention a few things....
Whatever you settle with, make sure you don't hook those CS-A700's up to an amp or receiver you just got. Use a crappy pair of speakers in case that amp or receiver you get decides to fail. They have a tendency to destroy speakers if and when they do.
Those old amps and receivers put out "true watts" unlike the garbage that is ridiculously and falsely rated at - these days.
A good practice is to never hook up any speakers to a newly acquired (classic) amp or receiver. Always turn the volume all the way down before powering on and before powering off. And be ready to power off if it starts "arcing and sparking".
When it's in your budget, get that amp or receiver recapped and replace the output transistors.
Remember, your playing with gear that is almost 40-45 years old. They are overdue for a tune-up.
Go ahead and have those speakers recapped too. You'll notice a huge difference in sound!

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Quite right. Never connect any 30 year or older equipment to the AC powerline before all the electrolytic capacitors are changed to the fresh ones - use only high quality components ! Otherwise , you´re blowing loudspeaker elements - and never got them back for life ! Cause, old electrolytic capacitors meant that there is a lots of DC on the poweramp output to the loudspeakers - and this is a most dangerous thing for them ! It absolutely burn voice coils ! Smoke !?! By the way, 10" and 10½" reels are not the same thing. Legendary Revox G36 can use 10½" but F36 only 10" reels. Most of the big ones like a Pioneer RT-1020 can use 10½" reels.

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Thank you for the (sound) advice ..... I would have walked right in to that problem. I just looked up the p41 and it's a knock out. It looks like it would be a fine match for the speakers. Love the wood plinth and the simplicity. I'm sure it's not easy to find.The receiver is also a challange. Lots of them on eBay but the veneer always seems shot. Once I have all components ill try and find someone in south Florida who can do this kind of work (good luck to me!).

If you find the time, i'd appreciate another couple of leads:

- a matching reel to reel (I don't think pioneer made that many)
- since I won't be playing radio or cassette, would you suggest an integrated amp instead of a receiver? Or is a receiver better? Would an integrated amp be able to run the tt and the reel to reel?
- I love the old needle gauges (not sure what they are called). Any thoughts here?

Thanks!!

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Your talking about VU meters I assume? Whether to get an amp or receiver is your preference based on the amount of space you have. Both will allow the connections you need. Most Pioneer R-T-R's start with "RT" and they go for big bucks these days. RT-909 being the top of the line (plays 10" reels). The smaller 7" players are RT-701, 707. The smaller 7" players are not too expensive (yet).
Look under the Library link on here and scroll down to Pioneer and you can see the different models.
The outer wood case can always be redone or remade. I never let that detract from buying a unit as long as the faceplate and knobs/switches are in good shape and all there. If you want a mint looking unit with "beautiful wood", expect to pay more. Then again, it may look "beautiful" on the outside and not work or have internal issues. Takes patience and research before committing your money in buying something you won't regret.
If what you buy will become "keepers" plan on spending money to have them serviced too (sometimes can be as much as you paid for it).

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Thanks again.... let the patience begin!